All things beta

[Hous_Bin_Farteen]

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[Romulus]

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[psycho //.]

Originally Posted by sifulch

Good to hear that everyone is enjoying it, crap about the no prone I mean what the fuck is up with that. How is a sniper going to be a sniper if you cant go prone. Smells like console crap to me.

It adds as much reality as it takes out, When I say adds I'm talking about previouse BF titles where every single time someone sees en enemy, they hit prone and knife thier legs or shoot, this annoys the fuck out of me. So I am happy.

But on recon kit, it kinda sucks.. although there is alot of cover areas that blend with the g suit which is ok I guess.


One thing that sucks a bit is the spotting, if you spot an enemy and announce it, an arrow will go on the map and above his head in real time making it real hard as a sniper or flanker to be stealthy. However on hardcore it's not there so again, bad and good thing.

[Homer]

Okay, so I've played about 2 hours of the beta. My first impression isn't good, unfortunately.

After fixing some minor graphical glitches (owed to my drivers), I finally managed to get in and start playing. Here's a list of the things that have pissed me off so far:

1. There is a bug that causes the movement keys to "stick". For example, I'll press 'A' lightly to move out from a corner, only to have my player start sprint strafing to the left as if the key is held down. This is fixed by tapping the key again, but is really, really fucking annoying. Granted, this did seem to stop after a few rounds.
2. If I have the "remember my password" box ticked when logging in, I get an "Unable to log in at this time" message. This is fixed by un-ticking the remember password option, but shouldn't be a problem to begin with.
3. The initial choice of weapons plain sucks. The reduction of 6 kits down to 4 is rather annoying. Adding to this is the fact that all the sniper "upgrades" are more like downgrades. You can even see the stats decrease as you switch between the two.
4. The XM8 is overpowered.
5. Whoever designed the server browser deserves to be shot twice in the back of the head. If you wish to use the browser, you have to wait until all the server data from every server has loaded. This takes about 60 seconds. You can't abort it or switch to the "favorites" or "history" tab (which take significantly less time to load". Furthermore, there is no "quick refresh" button, so if you switch from the main browser to the favorites list and back you're looking at about 3 minutes of loading time.
6. There is no way to call for a medic or for ammo. Radial menus don't exist, and you can't use radio commands that aren't automated.
7. If you spot an enemy, there is no confirmation that you have done so. He doesn't appear on your screen, nor does your character say "enemy spotted" or anything like that.
8. Even in hardcore mode, little red dots show up DIRECTLY on an enemy in REAL TIME if they are spotted. You can literally snipe people through fences and tree lines.
9. You can take out solid concrete walls with a pistol. I mean, I'm all for destructible environments, but really?
10. People only use squads to spawn on their squad mates. Team work is non-existent.
11. The health system is confusing. The way it operates is similar to COD in that the screen glows red when you are hit, but the health doesn't regenerate and there is no health bar. It's impossible to tell how much health you have.
12. I'm having a problem at the moment where the game crashes to desktop as soon as it has loaded from time to time. Couple that with the annoyingly long server browser load time, and I just went from really, really wanting to play, to not giving a fuck about the game at all and losing my will to play - all within 10 minutes.

With all that being said, I've probably painted a really negative impression of the game. So let me just emphasize that points 1, 2, possibly 4, possibly 5, and 12 will be fixed for the full release game or shortly after. Point 8 is possibly owed to server settings as well.

The game is actually good. Once you can get into it and get the game started, the game play is fucking awesome, and very similar to past Battlefield titles in a higher fidelity environment. I think the no prone, no radial menus etc. will take some getting used to, but it shouldn't be to hard to adjust.

I am of the opinion that the game has a lot of potential, and I'm hoping that most of these gripes is simple due to the game being in a beta phase. I did have fun playing, and it did make me want to go back and play more.

I'll post some more when I've played some more.

[devar]

copy + paste that into the bf bc2 forums

[psycho //.]

Hey Homer,

I seen some things that you may have mistaken so I just chucked in a few pointers in reply.

Any Q's just hit me up mate,

1. I'm not sure where this bug comes from or how it's triggered caus I have never had it happen to me which is strange, Ive hurd 3 people say it had happend to them but I am yet to have this happen to me luckily. I'm sure thel fix it.
2. This also never happend to me, I just click login, enter, enter and im in within 6 seconds.
3. I agree, theres no where near enough unlocks etc.
4. True, but I found in hardcore it didn't have THAT much OPness
5. The server browser designer cunt needs to have his/her groin and/or ovaries cut from his/her body and then shot 3 times in the face.
6. If you are a medic or assault, the map lightly flashes where people neeed ammo or meds in your vecinity, which I think isnt TOO bad because if someone is over other side of map calling for meds, the med in there area can do that job instead of waisting time running for ages to heals. No radio chatter does suck though
7. In normal mode, if you spot an enemy, press Q, the enemy shows on minimap and in realtime, gets an arrow above head. and even though the automated toon talk is minimised, they sometimes shout enemy spoted, strange thing is, you dont hear your own character yelling stuff.
8. All the hardcore servers I have played so far have no enemy spotting. The ONLY enemy thing that gets spotted in realtime/minimap is the UAV RC Heli. So maybe you were mistaken that you were in a HC server? The HC servers are actually really good and skill based with no enemy spotting. I have also found that you can still get enemy spot points in HC even though there is no enemy spotting, maybe it's a glitch or something caus it only happens at random.
9. Serious? Which walls? My guns dont even seem to go through plastered walls
10. Yeah, the teamwork is completely non-exsistant, I am a strong team player (you can see this if you check out my squad points score) And I think it will be essential for gameplay and fun if we constanty squad together as ADF as a team.
11. On normal servers you regen back to 100%, I think it takes around 10 seconds from the bloodyest red screen to full health. On HC there is no regen at all. I love the health system myself, its more realistic and if in HC, relies strongly on team work for the medics.
12. I have had server crashes, really rarely but it happens, I am sure it's just the beta client. I wonder when/if they will have an update for the BETA?

[Romulus]

im not sure about the health regen in normal mode. I know your screen gets clearer, but i dont think you gain any more health. ive been near death alot of times and continued for atleast a couple mins with low health and redness around the edges of my screen, or maybe you just regen out of critically low health or sumthing.

also, you can call out for a medic or ammo by looking at someone with that kit and pressing Q.

[Oughtboy]

if that "Hardcore" server we were playing on yesterday is the one you are thinking of Homer, it wasn't hardcore, i think they forgot to change the settings on the server or something...

[psycho //.]

In normal mode I am pretty sure that you regen to full health, after playing medic for hours and watching peoples health bars. I'd see someone with low health and start running towards them to take full advantage of all the heal points i'd get and by the time I get there they have regened to like 80%. Once you hit red screen and take cover for a while and it goes away you are regening health, I think once u hit around 30% the screen goes back to normal and from that point on you slowly regen back to full.

Let's test this because I can't be 100% positive.


And yeah, I thought so Ought, the way he was describing, it couldn't have been hardcore.

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So, whats the verdict? Will he be campaigning through BC2? Atleast untill BF3?
Will be participate in Ladders/Scrims? If there will be any?
I will put my hands up straight away, Ill be the Rambo Medic.

[Homer]

Okay, so I've played BC2 a bit more. It's really growing on me (especially HC mode).

Most of my gripes are just related to the bugs that will likely be fixed in the final version with any luck.

Looking forward to playing some different maps